Let’s get personal: Radio Milwaukee DJs explain why they got vaccinated

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We hear about COVID-19 and vaccines all the time — what they are, how they work and why we need them. That information is critical at a time like this, when according to Johns Hopkins University there have been more than 5 million COVID-related deaths across the globe. In fact, we compiled a resource page with important information about the vaccine and how to get one in Milwaukee.

But it’s equally as important to hear from people and understand why they got vaccinated, which is why our DJs have shared their own stories about what persuaded them to get the vaccine. You can hear their stories below.

Dori Zori and Marcus Doucette

“We didn’t see our family except for sidewalk visits,” said Zori. “We missed a lot of events but it was the one thing we could do. The one thing we could control.”

Justin Barney and Element Everest-Blanks

“I think a lot of people especially people in the African American community given the history with science and medicine in our community are so hesitant to get vaccinated because they don’t understand there’s a lot of research and history that has gone into this vaccine,” said Element.

Nate Imig and Anthony Foster

“I was kind of leery about it because it was so new and rolled out so quickly,” said Foster. “At the end of the day, I wanted to see my family and see my grandma and my aunts.”

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Here’s all you need to know about COVID-19 vaccines, according to the CEO of Hayat Pharmacy

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Nineteen months into what the World Health Organization officially declared a pandemic on March 11, 2020, it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say that we are eager to have a sense of normality. Normality is something that we are trying to get back to here at the station, where we wear masks and are socially distant. We clean our mics and equipment and incorporate added safety measures into our routine. Seeing familiar faces daily, even if it’s half of their face, brings back some of that regularity of everyday life. One thing I’ve done to get back to our habitual day-to-day routine was getting vaccinated. I did it because I was itching to get back out there. I am a natural homebody, but you avidly long to start socializing again when stuck in a tiny apartment for a few months.

I spoke to Dr. Hashim Zaibak, pharmacist and owner of Hayat Pharmacy, to learn more about COVID-19 vaccines. Dr. Zaibak graduated from pharmacy school 23 years ago and, in 2011, opened the first Hayat pharmacy to assist underserved communities in Milwaukee. There are over 20 locations throughout the city, which makes sense because “Hayat” is the native Arabic term for life.

Salam: How do COVID vaccines work? 

Dr. Zaibak: Just like the other vaccines, the COVID vaccine works by stimulating your immune system to create antibodies. So, when you are exposed to a real virus, let’s say two weeks or three weeks after you get vaccinated, your body would be like, “Oh, I know this. I can fight it.” It’s not a surprise for your immune system. Maybe you’re in a room with somebody who has COVID and sneezes or coughs, there’s a better chance of you not getting the disease versus somebody else by building those antibodies. 

Salam: We hear a lot about side effects, like a sore arm and fatigue, but can you speak a little bit more about the benefits that come with COVID vaccines?

Dr. Zaibak: Vaccines are just like any medication. Every medication has side effects and benefits. If a drug is approved in the United States, the FDA has to look at it and say, “The benefits outweigh the risks.” There are people who get very mild side effects and some people who get severe side effects from the vaccines, but overall, the benefits are a lot more significant than any risk.

Salam: Can you recall an interaction where someone was fearful about the side effect?

Dr. Zaibak: We get questions sometimes from pregnant ladies that say, “I’m in my first, second, or third trimester and should I get vaccinated or not?” I let them know, “This is what you should think of if you get COVID today because you’re not vaccinated and you get dehydrated and you end up in the hospital and you increase your risk of miscarriage.” Those are really significant risks versus getting the vaccine.

Salam: That’s a fair point. Let’s just say you got your vaccination, is there a chance that you can still get COVID? Do you have to test for COVID if you’re vaccinated? If so, how often? 

Dr. Zaibak: We test anywhere from a hundred to 200 patients a day, and we do see people who actually get what we call a breakthrough infection. They got vaccinated a few months ago and they still are testing positive. Most of these people who end up getting COVID after the vaccination end up with very mild cases. My suggestion is you really don’t need to test unless you have symptoms or if you’re traveling, a lot of destinations do require proof of the person being negative before traveling to them.

Salam: That’s good to know. That’s something that often confuses me because I didn’t know if I should be regularly testing. I think a lot of our listeners would benefit from that clarification. 

Dr. Zaibak: Many companies now require you to prove that you are negative on a weekly basis. A lot of companies say if you decide not to get vaccinated, you can still work with us. You just need to show us a negative PCR result every week.

Salam: What’s the difference between the PCR test and, let’s just say, testing kits you can do at home? 

Dr. Zaibak: That technology is different. The vaccination tests that you do at home are called antigen tests. So they’re quick, they’re rapid and they get you an accurate result. Sometimes we get false negatives with those where it doesn’t catch certain strains of the virus versus the PCR. The PCR is a gold standard. If it is positive, the person is truly positive. If you want more accuracy, then avoid the stay at home and go to a clinic. The challenge with the PCR test is that it takes longer. 

Salam: Yeah, I think that’s something folks have to factor in and treat it as a case-to-case basis. Wow, 200 people a day, that’s a lot of interactions! Have you dealt with anyone that has some hesitancy around vaccines? 

Dr. Zaibak: A lot of people are concerned about their children and being infertile after the vaccine. Vaccine hesitancy is a lot more significant amongst minorities, whether you’re talking about the Black community, the Hispanic community, the Arabic community, the new immigrants, and the Russian community. For us as healthcare providers, we just have to be respectful of their opinion. Some people are on the extreme, where they say, “No matter what you tell me, I’m not going to get vaccinated.” Then there are other people on the other extreme. They’re like, “As soon as the booster is available, sign me up.” And there are people in the middle and those are usually are the ones that you can work with and try to convince them to get vaccinated. I would be lying to you if I told you it hadn’t been a challenge.

Salam: With those hesitant folks, have you heard their reasoning on why they got vaccinated? 

Dr. Zaibak: People, for example, say I want to travel overseas to see my family in India, and  I just want to make sure that I’m protected and they’re protected. We have people who say my wife just got pregnant and I just want to make sure I don’t pass the disease to her. My mother just got diagnosed with cancer and I just want to make sure that I’m not passing any disease to her. Sometimes it’s like, “My job made me get vaccinated and I really don’t want to get vaccinated, but I’m going to lose my job next week if I don’t get vaccinated.” Different people have different reasons and different incentives. 

Salam: Yeah, I know a guy that honestly did it because of the risk of losing your job and I have a friend who believes in these conspiracy theories but didn’t want to miss out on Summerfest concerts. FOMO (fear of missing out) can be a great motivator.

Dr. Zaibak: For a lot of people, the only reason they didn’t get vaccinated is that they’re busy. Seriously! I hear this all the time. Another reason they did not get vaccinated is that the system was too complicated. They don’t know how to register for an appointment. Sometimes we forget about those people. For some people, it’s mobility. So we have a lot of home-bound patients and the only reason they didn’t get vaccinated is that they can’t leave their homes. Work with an organization or a pharmacy that actually sends a pharmacist to the patient’s house to get vaccinated or a nurse.

Salam: We spoke a lot about fear with vaccines and challenges around hesitancy but let’s talk about positive interactions.

Dr. Zaibak: Lots of positives! You know, “Thank you for allowing me to give my grandchildren a hug.” We had a beautiful card from a lady and she said, thank you for allowing me to just walk in without having an appointment because I don’t own a computer and a smartphone. I’m 70- years old and this changed my life. Those are why we come to work every morning.

Salam: That was very beautiful. The one about hugging your grandparents struck a nerve because it’s sometimes a simple thing that we forget. I wanted to ask a question that I frequently hear: if you’re already vaccinated, why do you need to wear a mask? 

Dr. Zaibak: When you wear a mask, you’re protecting the others. You’re just really making sure that if for some reason you get the virus, you’re not transmitting it to somebody else. A vaccinated person can be a carrier and can carry the virus from person A to B.

Salam: The last thing I wanted to talk about is boosters. What are they? Does Hyatt pharmacy offer them? 

Dr. Zaibak: The immunity that we get from the COVID vaccine drops gradually over time. With Pfizer, six months after the second dose, their immunity drops to a level where we need a booster. And the booster is the same volume, the same concentration of the vaccine. It’s not any different from the first and the second dose. It’s a booster to boost the immune system. That’s different from a third dose that immunocompromised patients need. So it’s, it’s different. Everybody’s going to need to get a booster in the future. Science is self-correcting and what we know today about the COVID vaccine is significantly more than what we knew six months or 12 months ago.

Hayat Pharmacy has multiple locations where they are providing COVID testing and vaccinations. These federal resources are free and available to everyone regardless if you are insured or your immigration status.

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Meet three local artists clashing the worlds of harmony and dissonance in an exhibit

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The term “struggling artist” was first introduced to me when I was in high school, flirting with the idea of venturing into a creative field. I, like many of my high school classmates, was told that in order to become an artist, you inevitability will struggle before you succeed. That’s if you’re one of the lucky ones.

These days with the power of social media and online stores like Etsy, you can promote your work to a large-scale audience and turn a passion into a living. However, does accessibility translate to gallery spaces? Bridge Work-Milwaukee, generated by Plum Blossom Initiative and Var Gallery and Studios, aims to address this need by bridging the gap between Madison and Milwaukee art communities to support local artists. Every year featured artists receive artist-in-residence benefits, a free studio space, other perks and an exhibit featuring their work at Var Gallery. This year’s exhibit is Harmony / Dissonance.

Meet the artists

Helena Baka

An explosion of colors, that’s what you will see when you look at Helena Baka’s work. Her abstract paintings are a mix of acrylic and oil paint to cover themes of innocence, naivety and grief all translated through color. As a first-generation American to Albanian immigrant parents, her work reflects her culture, girlhood and complicated impact on her identity. One of her pieces takes a closer look at bathrooms as safe spaces.

“I’m just thinking about how public bathrooms can be a safe space for girls and a place where we can unwind,” said Baka. “I think about how when I’m with my friends, we’ll be like, ‘Can you go the bathroom with me?’ and I was thinking a lot about the punk scene too, and just how all the graffiti in bathrooms can be silly but interesting and its own art in itself.”

Lindsey Yeager

Building stories through line and color is what Lindsey Yeager knows best. Yeager is a fine artist and illustrator from Madison, and upon looking at their work, it’s whimsical. The canvas has bright colors like red and orange with a field of animals like rabbits and lambs running around but if you take a closer it’s a deadly reflection. The skies are hot fire, clouds of fog and the rabbits are fleeing. Yeager’s work is about greed.

“I wanted to talk about essentially this idea of what happens when human beings, especially greedy ones, get their hands on a perfectly good world, and then it just like inevitably falls apart,” said Yeager.

Anna Siemsen

The word “divided” sums up the feeling that Anna Siemsen brings out of you when you look at her collection. Siemsen’s work is heavily influenced by her heritage, having grown up as a Chinese adoptee, and living in a biracial family, she has spent years feeling torn between two cultures. To her, it made sense to use her upbringing as a source of inspiration showcasing Western and Chinese-influenced garments. 

 “I thought a lot about like typical Western wear,” said Siemsen. “Looking at like Western TV shows and like popular culture from the 1950s but I also combined it with aspects of Chinese culture. The pants are made out of paper cutouts that are used for the Chinese new year celebration. The hat is also made out of the same cutouts. The outfit is all red because in China, red is the luckiest color.”

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La Revo Books makes space for BIPOC writers

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2021 has been a remarkable year for the sister twosome behind La Revo, a Latinx BIPOC-focused pop-up bookstore. It all started when Valeria Cerda and her sister Barbara, who you might know as Barby the Book Fairy, sat down at their kitchen table. 

I just came over and brought my laptop and I’m like, ‘let’s just do this,’” said Valeria Cerda. “It started as a brain dump where we spilled everything we had in our heads. I remember Barbara was cleaning her kitchen at the same time and her kids were running around.”

At some point during this passionate brainstorm session, their father called with unfortunate news. Their grandmother passed away. The sisters decided to start La Revo books in honor of their grandmother’s spirit, even down to the name La Revo, which is short for la revolution.

When I interviewed the sisters, I was intrigued by the idea that both of them were constantly centered around books. Before this venture, Barbra collected 1,000 books for Southsidekids with Milwaukee’s free libraries. Barara said it’s revolutionary to learn about yourself and to be able to share the stories of where you came from.

“It’s such a treasure to be able to share culture and identity with each other,” said Barbara. “There aren’t any bookstores in Milwaukee that focus on or that specialize in Latin X literature. So through books, we’ve been able to bring that to Milwaukee and kind of fill in a space that we almost didn’t know that we needed.”

Valeria added that not only is it important to learn about your culture, it’s also political.

“I think books are really, and specifically our books, Brown people’s books, Black people’s books, indigenous books, they’re very political,” said Valeria. “One of the themes that we talk a lot about is like the sanctity of books and literature. It has been political from the start. How can we not do a book store?”

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Milwaukee’s Talking Book and Braille Library keeps making books accessible

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There are a ton of misconceptions about the visually impaired community, one of them being that blind people don’t read. The Wisconsin Talking Book and Braille Library confirms that’s a myth. Zarina Mohd Shah, the management librarian, said just like the National Services for the Blind and Print Disabled tagline, “that all may read.”

The library first opened its doors in 1961 and is celebrating its 60th anniversary in conjunction with blindness awareness month this October. The library provides reading materials for the blind community and visually impaired individuals with permanent or temporary disabilities.

“We have close to 7,000 patrons,” said Shah. “We serve the whole state of Wisconsin and nationwide.”

Not only does this library have books in braille, a form of written language for blind people, but it also offers talking books. These digital audiobooks are incredibly easy to access. You sign up on the library’s website, answer a few questions like your preferred genre, and then the library mails you six books to start with. Alongside books, patrons receive a digital playbook, a pair of headphones and you can even download the books with an adapter. All you have to do is register and they have you covered.

“It is one of the best free federal programs that are for people who are blind and visually impaired and who have physical disabilities,” said Shah.

Accessibility is one of the reasons why libraries are loved. To think that there are only 55 libraries nationwide that offer these services and Milwaukee has one of them means that regardless if you have visual or physical limitations, you can still seek adventure that comes from reading a book.

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BattleBox, Milwaukee’s nerd safe haven

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A “nerd safe haven.” That’s how Bryant Wilcox describes BattleBox, an all-in-one Milwaukee enterprise centered around geek culture. BattleBox has two components. The first is a buy-sell-trade video game, action figure and anime business. The second integration is the BattleBox Cafe and Lounge, 5431 W. Lisbon Ave., where like-minded folks can nerd out.

Wilcox and his family have always surrounded themselves with video games. “I was talking to my sister about this the other day,” said Wilcox. “We just always had video games at our house. I can’t take responsibility for that. Mario, like the original Mario Bros., was there. Frogger was there, Donkey Kong and stuff like that. Those games were in our house already.”

Opening up a business didn’t happen by accident. Not only were there games in the household, but Wilcox was also a collector. He bought his first action figure, Batman from the Tim Burton film, as a teenager. He then noticed on the back of the package that there was a Joker figure. From there his collection grew alongside a few comics. Wilcox said he didn’t have a lot of money growing up and decided to start trading his collection as means of passive income. 

“That probably was the moment or the catalyst for the actual business, because trading was huge for me as a kid,” said Wilcox. “I looked forward to the new school year. That was like the main thing to find the new kids with the Garbage Pail Kids. We had Garbage Pail Kids before a Pokémon.

Wilcox stressed that making BattleBox inclusive and a sanctuary for all folks was a main priority. The lounge is members-only, however becoming a member isn’t complicated; you just need to speak to Wilcox himself. To date, there are over 1400 members and that number is growing daily.

“The whole idea is to create that safe place for folks like us,” said Wilcox. “Not necessarily folks who look like us but who are into the same type of thing. We need a spot. Like all of these guys are coming through that are into Dragon Ball. We really don’t have a spot.”

Wilcox looks forward to expanding BattleBox in order to continue fostering an environment that’s welcoming to all regardless of race and gender. Just as long as you’re willing to get your game on. Follow BattleBox’s Instagram page for more information on its upcoming October schedule with events like karaoke and a superhero versus villain costume party.

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Ellas Café plans to become a safe space for LGBTQ+ and Latinx folks

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This is a love story centered around coffee.

“I was walking on my lunch break that day into Colectivo where Renee was working at the time and it was love at first sight,” said Sofia Esmeralda, co-owner of Ellas Cafe, when her partner, both romantically and in business, Renee Valdez interjected: “I felt like no one was around at the moment because I had a long line out the door and this day I was working the register and I usually don’t work late. That day I worked late.”

After Sofia held up the line and nervously ordered her coffee, they exchanged numbers. Over time they both spoke about their passions. Renee mentioned her love for coffee, having been a barista at Starbucks and then Colectivo with hopes of owning her own cafe one day. Sofia encouraged Renee to set their dreams into reality. Now three years later, their love of coffee has blossomed into a venture of their own, an LGBTQ+ Latinx pop-up cafe called Ellas, which means she/her in Spanish.

“Ellas came from women,” said Valdez. “Women are doing the majority of the things, not just in the coffee world, but around the world. They always seem to be just a shadow in the background. They come up with the ideas, they come up with the art, they come up with a lot of things to make this world run and we just don’t get enough credit.” 

The name is also in Spanish to signify their community, culture and Latinx women. Beyond honoring Latinx women through the name, Ellas’s coffee is sourced from a Latinx female farmer Liz Calderon with Magia Coffee. Supporting women in all steps of the process, from the coffee beans all the way to when you receive your cup of joe from Sofia and Renee. Ellas aims for the cafe to become a safe space for the queer community. Sofia recalls the first time their pop-up cafe was stationed outside of Milwaukee.

“Having our flag up was intimidating,” said Esmeralda. “It was also beautiful to see some of our gaybies find comfort and come get an iced coffee, chat with us for a while and feel like, okay, even though my community is predominantly one way and thinks one way and makes me feel bad for being the way that, it gets better. It’s okay, I can go to Ellas’s pop-ups and kick it with them and drink some iced coffee.”

Currently, the cafe has exclusively been only doing popup events. It will partner with Integrative Wellness every other Saturday this October for a morning yoga class.

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Culture is the mission behind this Milwaukee wellness center, opening soon

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It all starts with a space. A space where women can come together, build community and receive affordable luxurious wellness services. A wellness center with a mission is what Joanna Brooks envisioned when opening up Embody Yoga.

Now she is in the process of changing Embody Yoga to simply Embody with a wellness center opening early 2022 in Glendale.

“The wellness center is going to what I believe Black women and women in this city deserve,” said Brooks.

Not only will there be yoga classes, but Brooks also intends Embody to be the go-to spot for women, with additional services such as massage, skin treatments, Ayurveda and counseling. Another element is providing culture with community events. These events range from healing circles, sound baths and TV viewing parties like the latest season of “Insecure.”

“Women tend to put themselves last in all areas of their lives,” said Brooks. “We don’t really do ourselves a lot of favors when it comes to taking care of ourselves. For Black women, we always have to be strong and we have to be independent. As it relates to counseling within the African-American community and a lot of other communities of color, we don’t do counseling because we don’t share family business with those outside of the household.”

Photo credit: Embody

Another tenent of the mission is changing the narrative around self-care and making it affordable and accessible to all. Brooks said Embody isn’t seen as a place where one books an appointment and leaves; instead, she aims to create a place for community members to gather beyond receiving services.

“Whereas I focus on communities of color primarily, we’re talking about yoga teachers that serve the Deaf community, that serve the differently-abled community, that serve the LGBTQ+ community,” said Brooks. “We want to give them access to these beautiful spaces that we’re creating because we believe that people of color deserve that and that all communities deserve that.”

Embody will be launching a crowdfunding campaign early next month, in hope of bringing the mission to life. To be involved or stay updated with Embody check out its Instagram page.

Listen below for the long-form interview with Brooks to learn more about Embody’s mission to uplift women of color in wellness.

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Students are looking to art to tackle virtual anxiety

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We hear all the time that representation matters, but does it really if there aren’t a variety of voices in the writers’ room? Can representation matter if a story is told from a perspective that isn’t the writer’s own? First Stage launched its second short play series this month, Amplify, which began in the spring of 2021 to showcase plays created by BIPOC, centering on a young person’s point of view. The initiative aims to connect the theater community and tell stories about communities that might not be properly represented.

“It’s giving directors, actors and people of color an opportunity to share their voice, share their talents and to demonstrate their ability,” said Samantha D. Montgomery, artistic inclusion and community engagement director for First Stage.

The series kicks off with “How to Actually Graduate in a Virtual World,” a play by Nikkole Salter, directed by Samantha D. Montgomery and in collaboration with Milwaukee Black Theater Festival Youth Night with music by WebsterX.

“This play is about young people who are feeling like they are invincible and left out,” said Montgomery. “Not only because of their life experiences but because during the pandemic, they are not going to be able to celebrate their graduation. It’s also about being a young person living in Milwaukee.”

The play centers a high schooler’s perspective on the pandemic. Each character resembles a response to the pandemic. Jordan, played by Jonae Thomas, was more concerned with her grandmother’s health and was frustrated than her classmates when their focus was on missing their in-person graduation. Shannon, played by Abby Wallace, resembled optimism. Kenya, played by Christian Hughes, felt like he was left behind and had an overall negative reaction. Raynell, played by Nahjee Robinson, had a hustle mentality, using his free time to focus on passion projects like his music. he main character TT, played Maya O’Day Biddle, mentioned that although illogical, she felt as if she was being blamed for something in regard to the pandemic, that missing her graduation was tied to her lack of hard work, instead of a global health crisis.  Montgomery said that was a sentiment shared among students.

“You can feel like being left out, not being noticed or people don’t realize how important those milestones are to you,” said Montgomery. “A lot of young people are trying to find their journey and in that process, they have various struggles.”

Another character in the framework is Milwaukee. Although the play was written by Salter, who lives in New York City, however, Milwaukee was properly represented in the script and dialogue. In one scene where a Zoom call screen freezes, Kenya said, “This ain’t Menomonee Falls,” as a call out to underfunded neighborhoods.

“It’s about certain disadvantages that are within communities,” said Montgomery. “Everybody doesn’t have access to the same resources. So when he said, ‘This ain’t Menomonee Falls’ it means that they might have newer computers, but that’s also a stereotype in some sense.”

The next play in the Amplify series is “Step Kids,” a one-act musical about high school kids finding common ground during a dance competition audition. For more information on the BIPOC series, check out the First Stage website.

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We need to think about the future when celebrating Hispanic Heritage Month

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Hispanic Heritage Month is celebrated from Sept. 15 to Oct. 15. The celebration starts mid-month to mark the independence of five Hispanic countries: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua. This month celebrates Latinx Americans, their culture and their history.

Latinos are the second-largest and fastest-growing population in Wisconsin. I recently sat down with Dr. Sergio Gonzalez, a history and languages assistant professor at Marquette, to learn about Milwaukee’s Latinx communities.

The First Latino Milwaukeean | Courtesy of Milwaukee Public Library

“You can’t talk about what’s happening today without talking about a 100-year long history of migration from Latin America,” said Gonzalez. “The first large groups of Latinx Mexican descent people really began arriving in the city in the 1920s. They come here for the same reason a lot of immigrants come to the United States. They came looking for better opportunities for themselves and for their families.”

It was simple. The majority of the Latinx community settled in Walker’s Point because there was work there with booming industries, factories, and tanneries. Even today the South Side of Milwaukee still carries Latinx cultural significance.

Gonzalez wrote a book, “Mexicans in Wisconsin,” that traces the journey of Mexican immigrants making Wisconsin their home. Gonzalez said one of the reasons he wrote it was because nobody else was reporting these stories.

“I grew up in the city and we all would go to Old World Wisconsin,” said Gonzalez. “We would go to the Milwaukee Public Museum and the old streets of Milwaukee. I would look around and there’s all this immigrant history; I think to myself, ‘Where’s my family’s history?’ My family is originally from Mexico; I don’t see myself represented here. I think a major reason for this, it’s a political reason. There’s a reason that people don’t consider these populations that are still coming to this country today as being part of this larger narrative. They see them as newcomers.”

Gonzalez said many Latinx people who have come to Milwaukee still have trouble being identified as a Wisconsinite regardless of whether they made a home here.

“It’s a consistent problem,” he said. “They’ve been wanted for their labor, for the work that they can provide but their social standing in the state has always been very suspect. We can see in the last year with the pandemic; the question of who is essential and essential workers? Oftentimes those people who have fallen under the gun when it comes to working in really difficult conditions and not having any protections have been Latinx workers, often undocumented but not just undocumented. These are kind of persistent questions that we have today and it’s all very much connected to who we consider an immigrant, who we consider as part of our past and ultimately as part of our future.”

Gonzalez said it perfectly. It’s essential to continue asking those questions and hopefully one day we won’t need to.

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