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When the world gets too loud, Jack Antonoff turns to Bleachers

The internet seems to have a lot of opinions about Jack Antonoff's production style. Many of those takes, respectfully, are baloney.

"Almost everything I've ever read about myself is not just a couple of inaccuracies, but like massively fraught," he tells World Cafe.

Antonoff is talking about a video that made the rounds a few years ago, in which a content creator tried to guess whether certain songs were produced by the New Jersey native within mere seconds.

"Part of me wanted to be, like, 'A bunch of these songs you identified, the part you identified, I never touched,'" he says.

Such ardent scrutiny over his music production comes, in part, from his list of high-profile collaborators: Lorde, Lana Del Rey, Clairo, Carly Rae Jepsen, Taylor Swift. The list goes on and on.

Rather than stoking the digital flames, the Bleachers frontman minds his business. He prefers to maintain a level of mystery around his craft. That's why his band is so important to him. It's a place for Antonoff to turn to when the world gets a little too loud.

"It's just really hard to care about anything but what you care about the most, so it felt like a really nice time to make an album," he says about the band's self-titled fourth album. "Every signal that I was receiving was sort of, like, nothing here is worth believing in, so just look completely inward."

In this session, Antonoff and the band join us for a session in front of a live audience. He talks about his actual ethos for music production; why he keeps coming back to making music for himself; and why he's not that concerned with artificial intelligence in the music industry.

Plus, Bleachers perform songs from across their discography.


Set list

  • "What'd I Do With All This Faith"
  • "We're Gonna Know Each Other Forever"
  • "Dream of Mickey Mantle"
  • "Nothing Is U"
  • "Wild Heart"
  • "I Wanna Get Better"

This episode of World Cafe was produced and edited by Kimberly Junod. The web story was created by Miguel Perez. Our engineer is Chris Williams. Our programming and booking coordinator is Chelsea Johnson and our line producer is Will Loftus.

Copyright 2024 XPN

Stephen Kallao
[Copyright 2024 XPN]
Kimberly Junod
World Cafe senior producer Kimberly Junod has been a part of the World Cafe team since 2001, when she started as the show's first line producer. In 2011 Kimberly launched (and continues to helm) World Cafe's Sense of Place series that includes social media, broadcast and video elements to take listeners across the U.S. and abroad with an intimate look at local music scenes. She was thrilled to be part of the team that received the 2006 ASCAP Deems Taylor Radio Broadcast Award for excellence in music programming. In the time she has spent at World Cafe, Kimberly has produced and edited thousands of interviews and recorded several hundred bands for the program, as well as supervised the show's production staff. She has also taught sound to young women (at Girl's Rock Philly) and adults (as an "Ask an Engineer" at WYNC's Werk It! Women's Podcast Festival).