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For Bright Eyes' Conor Oberst, every new song penned feels like a rarity

Nik Freitas
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At some point or another, you've probably been told to "believe in yourself." It sounds so simple, right? Just believe in yourself! But it's not always easy — even when you have lots of evidence that says you should.

Conor Oberst of Bright Eyes has a ton of evidence pointing to the fact that he is a great songwriter: a lifetime of writing music, an enormous back catalogue, and fans who hang on his every word.

But, in today's session, you'll hear Oberst talk about how when he finishes a song, he's never really sure if he'll write another one again.

"After you finish a project, or a record, or a batch of songs, there is always that weird doom and gloom in your mind where you are, like, 'Oh, that can never happen again. There are no more songs,'" he says.

Oberst also talks about the things that do get him writing, like collaborating with people he admires. Plus, he talks about his new album with Bright Eyes, called Five Dice, All Threes.

The live performances you'll hear today were recorded at a warm-up show that Bright Eyes did back in September. Their tour was cancelled for the fall but has since restarted. We caught up with Oberst just before the band went back out on the road this winter.


Set list

  1. "Bells and Whistles"
  2. "First Day of My Life"
  3. "El Capitan"

This episode of World Cafe was produced and edited by Kimberly Junod. The web story was created by Miguel Perez. Our engineer is Chris Williams. Our programming and booking coordinator is Chelsea Johnson and our line producer is Will Loftus.

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Raina Douris
Raina Douris, an award-winning radio personality from Toronto, Ontario, is the host and writer of NPR's daily nationally-syndicated music interview and discovery program World Cafe. She has interviewed artists like Bruce Springsteen, Barbra Streisand, Questlove and Brandi Carlile, and was a 2022 keynote lecturer on the topic of Folk Music and music discovery at the Chautauqua Institution.
Kimberly Junod
World Cafe senior producer Kimberly Junod has been a part of the World Cafe team since 2001, when she started as the show's first line producer. In 2011 Kimberly launched (and continues to helm) World Cafe's Sense of Place series that includes social media, broadcast and video elements to take listeners across the U.S. and abroad with an intimate look at local music scenes. She was thrilled to be part of the team that received the 2006 ASCAP Deems Taylor Radio Broadcast Award for excellence in music programming. In the time she has spent at World Cafe, Kimberly has produced and edited thousands of interviews and recorded several hundred bands for the program, as well as supervised the show's production staff. She has also taught sound to young women (at Girl's Rock Philly) and adults (as an "Ask an Engineer" at WYNC's Werk It! Women's Podcast Festival).